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vào lúc: 07-04-2013, 09:24 PM

Chu Tibu,

Con la vo cua Anh Reborn. Xin loi Chu truoc, con khong co viet tieng Viet rang cho lam, vay con se viet tieng My. Co gi Chu hoi Anh Reborn neu Chu khong co hieu, nha?

First, thank you for helping me with the mediation. I have been trying it since you told my husband what I needed to do. I have not been doing it for very long, or long periods of time, but I have been doing it every day for as long as I can. It is hard with the kids and work.

I have not been able to see the Blessed Mother clearly, but I have been able to see a vague outline. Each time I have tried it, it was like a white mist or fog going in and out, in and out, and a lot of white spots like pearls appearing here and there. But I have not seen Her clearly, only a white outline, that is 2 dimensional, and very fuzzy. I am not sure if I am doing this right, but it is all very new to me. Is this correct? Please let me know if I am on the right path.

But what I am very curious about, is that ever since I started to medicate in this manner, even when I am not medicating, the image of the Blessed Mother is constantly in the back of my mind. Even when I am cooking, or working or even thinking about other things, the image of Mother is there. She is wearing a white cloth, and her hair is brown, her face isn't very clear, but I know she has white on and that she has brown hair. I don't see the whole image of her in the mountain like the outline when I try to medicate, but it is just from her face to below her chest, but somehow I know, like I 'feel' that it is the same Blessed Mary from the mountain. It started only since this morning and it is all the time. I thought maybe I was just focusing on her, but even when I tried to think about something else, I can still focus on what I am doing, but Her image is still there. Her image doesn't distract me, its just constantly there.

I don't want to seem like I am over imagining things, which could be since this is new and I am not exactly sure what I am doing. But I think I should ask you so I know what is real and what is me having too much hope that I am imagining it. It is all very confusing, so please let me know if I am not making any sense. I can't seem to describe it in any other way to make it easier; therefore I apologize. Can you please help me understand?

Thank you so much for all your help, not only for me but for my husband. I appreciate everything you have done and are doing for us.

- Beatificus

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Trả lời #1 vào lúc: 11-04-2013, 08:15 AM

Chu Tibu,

Con la vo cua Anh Reborn. Xin loi Chu truoc, con khong co viet tieng Viet rang cho lam, vay con se viet tieng My. Co gi Chu hoi Anh Reborn neu Chu khong co hieu, nha?
Me too, I cannot describe or explain so well in english, but I will do my best Grin Grin Grin
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First, thank you for helping me with the mediation. I have been trying it since you told my husband what I needed to do. I have not been doing it for very long, or long periods of time, but I have been doing it every day for as long as I can. It is hard with the kids and work.
What can I say: "Triumph without peril brings no glory"
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I have not been able to see the Blessed Mother clearly, but I have been able to see a vague outline. Each time I have tried it, it was like a white mist or fog going in and out, in and out, and a lot of white spots like pearls appearing here and there. But I have not seen Her clearly, only a white outline, that is 2 dimensional, and very fuzzy. I am not sure if I am doing this right, but it is all very new to me. Is this correct? Please let me know if I am on the right path.
Because this is the first time you try to exercise your mind, so it will take time.
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But what I am very curious about, is that ever since I started to medicate in this manner, even when I am not medicating, the image of the Blessed Mother is constantly in the back of my mind. Even when I am cooking, or working or even thinking about other things, the image of Mother is there. She is wearing a white cloth, and her hair is brown, her face isn't very clear, but I know she has white on and that she has brown hair. I don't see the whole image of her in the mountain like the outline when I try to medicate, but it is just from her face to below her chest, but somehow I know, like I 'feel' that it is the same Blessed Mary from the mountain. It started only since this morning and it is all the time. I thought maybe I was just focusing on her, but even when I tried to think about something else, I can still focus on what I am doing, but Her image is still there. Her image doesn't distract me, its just constantly there.
I call that: "We get hook in the Universal Beauty". You said she has brown hair, that a good step, because your vision was not black and white.
Let me explain: Black and white vision belong to the animal kind (we call "the binary life"). But color vision belong to someone who try not to be a liar, and more pious. And these are perfect for practicing the meditation.
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I don't want to seem like I am over imagining things, which could be since this is new and I am not exactly sure what I am doing. But I think I should ask you so I know what is real and what is me having too much hope that I am imagining it. It is all very confusing, so please let me know if I am not making any sense. I can't seem to describe it in any other way to make it easier; therefore I apologize. Can you please help me understand?

Thank you so much for all your help, not only for me but for my husband. I appreciate everything you have done and are doing for us.

- Beatificus
The fact, this vision is in two dimension, that mean you are in the first step. And it is, no doubt, your imagination. And this is normal, no mistake. Plus you are right in track.

The next step, when you meditate and have a vision you should repeat in your mind:
happiness... happiness... happiness... all the time.

When possible, you repeat this exercise.

Do not force yourself too much, just keep it at 70% of your strength.
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Trả lời #2 vào lúc: 11-04-2013, 06:46 PM

Sợ ông Bà Già vào thăm Chùa mình, mà đọc trúng bài này thì ổng bả bó tay nên mình dùng cái vốn liếng tiếng Anh cà xụi mà dịch ra lại tiếng Việt. Đọc hết bài của Beatificus thì thấy thật là cảm động, lời văn chân thành cầu đạo da diết và rất ư là lịch sự. Mong một ngày nào đó ACE có thể dịch toàn bộ những bài trên HSTD ra tiếng Anh để mọi người đều hiểu và cùng lợi lạc. Có gì sai thì ace cứ mạnh dạn sửa dùm nghe Grin Grin Grin

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Chú Tibu,

Con là vợ của Anh Reborn. Xin lỗi Chú trước, con không có viết tiếng Việt rành cho lắm, vậy con sẽ viết tiếng Mỹ. Có gì Chú hỏi Anh Reborn nếu Chú không có hiểu, nha?

Me too, I cannot describe or explain so well in english, but I will do my best Grin Grin Grin  
Chú cũng vậy, vốn tiếng Anh của Chú thì cũng khó có thể mô tả và giải thích cặn kẽ cho con được, nhưng Chú sẽ cố gắng hết sức. Grin Grin Grin

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First, thank you for helping me with the mediation. I have been trying it since you told my husband what I needed to do. I have not been doing it for very long, or long periods of time, but I have been doing it every day for as long as I can. It is hard with the kids and work.
Đầu tiên cảm ơn Chú giúp đỡ con tu tập. Và con đã chơi liền từ lúc Chú chỉ cho hai vợ chồng con. Con cảm thấy rất là khó  khi có công việc và con cái, nhưng con sẽ cố gắng tập đều hàng ngày.

What can I say: "Triumph without peril brings no glory"
Chú có thể nói gì bây giờ nhỉ: Để đi tới vinh quang thì không thể không trải qua chông gai.

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I have not been able to see the Blessed Mother clearly, but I have been able to see a vague outline. Each time I have tried it, it was like a white mist or fog going in and out, in and out, and a lot of white spots like pearls appearing here and there. But I have not seen Her clearly, only a white outline, that is 2 dimensional, and very fuzzy. I am not sure if I am doing this right, but it is all very new to me. Is this correct? Please let me know if I am on the right path.

Con không thể nhìn thấy Đức Mẹ một cách rõ ràng, nhưng con đã có thể nhìn thấy một hình ảnh viền mờ mờ. Mỗi lần con nhìn, nó giống như một màn sương trắng hay sương mù ra vào, trong và ngoài, và rất nhiều đốm trắng như ngọc trai xuất hiện ở đây và ở đó. Nhưng con  không nhìn thấy Đức Mẹ rõ ràng, chỉ thấy một đường viền màu trắng 2D, và rất mờ. Con không chắc chắn là con đang đi đúng hướng vì mọi thứ còn rất mới đối với con.
Cho con hỏi là con làm có đúng không? Con xin Chú chỉ dùm con.

Because this is the first time you try to exercise your mind, so it will take time.

Đây chỉ là lần đầu tiên con tập cái tâm của con. Nó cần có thời gian con à.

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But what I am very curious about, is that ever since I started to medicate in this manner, even when I am not medicating, the image of the Blessed Mother is constantly in the back of my mind. Even when I am cooking, or working or even thinking about other things, the image of Mother is there. She is wearing a white cloth, and her hair is brown, her face isn't very clear, but I know she has white on and that she has brown hair. I don't see the whole image of her in the mountain like the outline when I try to medicate, but it is just from her face to below her chest, but somehow I know, like I 'feel' that it is the same Blessed Mary from the mountain. It started only since this morning and it is all the time. I thought maybe I was just focusing on her, but even when I tried to think about something else, I can still focus on what I am doing, but Her image is still there. Her image doesn't distract me, its just constantly there.

Nhưng con vẫn rất tò mò là kể từ khi con bắt đầu trị bịnh theo cách này, ngay cả khi con không dùng thuốc con vẫn thấy hình ảnh Đức Mẹ xuất hiện liên tục trong tâm trí của con. Ngay cả khi đang nấu ăn, làm việc hoặc thậm chí suy nghĩ về những thứ khác thì hình ảnh Đức Mẹ vẫn ở trong con. Con thấy Đức Mẹ mặc một tấm vải trắng, và mái tóc màu nâu, khuôn mặt thì không rõ ràng cho lắm, nhưng con biết Đức Mẹ mặc một tấm vải trắng và có mái tóc nâu.
Con không nhìn thấy toàn bộ hình ảnh của Đức Mẹ trong lúc con cố gắng để trị bịnh, con chỉ thấy từ khuôn mặt xuống dưới ngực của bà, nhưng con có cảm giác rằng đó là chính là Đức Mẹ. Cái hình ảnh đó trong tâm trí con từ sáng nay và nó cứ xuất hiện. Con nghĩ có lẽ con nghĩ về Đức Mẹ nhiều quá, nhưng ngay cả khi con cố gắng nghĩ về một cái gì khác, nhưng hình ảnh của Đức Mẹ vẫn hiện trong tâm con. Hình ảnh đó không làm phân tâm con khi làm những việc khác, mà nó xuất hiện liên tục trong tâm con.

I call that: "We get hook in the Universal Beauty". You said she has brown hair, that a good step, because your vision was not black and white.
Let me explain: Black and white vision belong to the animal kind (we call "the binary life"). But color vision belong to someone who try not to be a liar, and more pious. And these are perfect for practicing the meditation.

Chú gọi đó là: "Chúng ta lấy cái móc trong thế giới sắc đẹp ". Con nói rằng Đức Mẹ  có mái tóc nâu, đó là một bước tiến tốt, bởi vì cái thấy của con không phải là màu đen và trắng.
Bây giờ Chú giải thích nè: Đen và trắng là cái thấy của các loại động vật (chúng ta gọi đó là "cuộc sống nhị phân"). Và tất nhiên. cái thấy có màu là thuộc về một ai đó cố gắng không nói dối, và sống có đạo đức hơn. Và hai cái này là bước đầu hoàn hảo cho thực hành thiền định.

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I don't want to seem like I am over imagining things, which could be since this is new and I am not exactly sure what I am doing. But I think I should ask you so I know what is real and what is me having too much hope that I am imagining it. It is all very confusing, so please let me know if I am not making any sense. I can't seem to describe it in any other way to make it easier; therefore I apologize. Can you please help me understand?

Đối với con thì những điều này là hoàn toàn mới và con cũng không biết có chắc chắn không nữa, nên con không muốn đi quá xa, cho nên con muốn hỏi Chú và sau khi Chú trả lời thì con sẽ biết đâu là sự thật và cái gì làm cho con hy vọng rằng con có thể tập luyện được. Tất cả đều rất khó diễn đạt, vì vậy xin vui lòng cho con biết. Con dường như không thể mô tả nó trong bất kỳ cách nào khác để làm cho nó dễ dàng hơn, do đó con xin lỗi. Chú làm ơn giúp con.

Thank you so much for all your help, not only for me but for my husband. I appreciate everything you have done and are doing for us.

Cảm ơn Chú  rất nhiều, không chỉ cho con mà ngay cả cho chồng con. Con đánh giá cao tất cả mọi thứ Chú đã làm và đang làm cho chúng con.

Beatificus

The fact, this vision is in two dimension, that mean you are in the first step. And it is, no doubt, your imagination. And this is normal, no mistake. Plus you are right in track.
Thực tế, tầm nhìn này là hai chiều, đó có nghĩa là con đang ở trong bước đầu tiên. Và như vậy là không có nghi ngờ gì về trí tưởng tượng của con cả. Và đây là bình thường, không có sai lầm. Đúng rồi đó con.

The next step, when you meditate and have a vision you should repeat in your mind:
happiness... happiness... happiness... all the time.
Bước tiếp theo, khi con tập và con thấy thì con nên đọc lặp lại trong tâm:
Hỷ lạc ... Hỷ lạc ... Hỷ lạc ...

When possible, you repeat this exercise.
Khi có thời gian là con cứ lặp lại bài tập này.

Do not force yourself to much, just keep it at 70% of your strength.
Đừng tập quá sức, chỉ cần giữ ở mức 70% sức lực của con thôi nghe.
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Trả lời #3 vào lúc: 11-04-2013, 10:22 PM

Chu Tibu,

You have reinforced my hope and ability to become stronger through the help of the Blessed Mother, and for that I cannot thank you enough.

Your English is very good, and I can understand your meaning perfectly fine. However, if you feel more comfortable writing in Vietnamese, please feel free to do so. I can speak and read Vietnamese fairly well; my problem is, is that when I write in Vietnamese, my spelling is not very good. Therefore, it would be harder for you to understand me if I were to write in Vietnamese, or, I might write something that maybe unintentionally disrespectful to you, which I do not want to do anything to offend you. Your written English is far better than my Vietnamese is.    Grin

I will continue to the next step as you have instructed. I am very happy and humbled by this experience. Thank you for guiding me in the right direction.

If you do not mind, I would like to share another piece with you that I have just recently experienced. I know you had told me to picture the Blessed Mother in the mountain, but I have not been able to see Her whole body. It is the same image that I have that I mentioned before, of only Her face to her chest. I try to picture Her as a whole, but no matter what, that same image keeps on appearing before me. She is all in white, and the picture is like it is made out of a cloud from incense burning, but Her image is much more clear - I could see Her eyes, face, and lips - all of Her features to Her chest. Although she was all in white, again I could tell Her hair was brown. No matter how much I tried to picture Her whole body, this is the image that consistently appears. She is this way whether I am meditating or, like before, constantly in my mind even when I am not. This image is different from what you had suggested me to envision, but in my mind and heart, I can tell it is the same Blessed Mother from the mountain. Can you please perhaps tell me if there is a reason why this is the vision that continues to appear before me even though you had initially instructed me to picture Her as She is in the mountain as a whole?

Last night in particular, was when the vision of the Blessed Mother appeared, and she was very close to me. The distance between us was as if we were sitting across from each other at a coffee table, with only from our face to our chest showing - exactly like that. My husband had told me when I first started meditating, was that the vision would be further away, like if I were watching Her from a hill. Her presence was very calming and peaceful, and awhile after I was meditating, I felt a part on my mind being suddenly surprised and awed from Her close presence. It was at this moment, that I immediately fell asleep, even though when I first started to meditate, I was not even tired. She did not say anything, I just remember being so overwhelmed by her presence. Can you please share your insight on this? Any insight or guidance would be very much appreciated.

I have not been forcing myself too much to overdo my strength, and am glad that you said it is okay to only be at 70%. I am sure Reborn has mentioned that I have not been entirely well in my health.

Again, thank you very much for your time and help. I hope I am not being bothersome.

-Beatificus
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Trả lời #4 vào lúc: 12-04-2013, 06:04 AM

Đã thương thì thương cho trót luôn đi Grin Grin Grin, sẵn đó Brightmoon dịch luôn ra tiếng Việt Nam cho mọi người cùng hiểu.
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Trả lời #5 vào lúc: 12-04-2013, 10:44 AM

"we get hooked on universal beauty" = chúng ta hay bị dính vào thói quen của cái đẹp đại trà. Ở đây ý chỉ linh ảnh có mái tóc màu nâu, là vẻ đẹp mẫu mà người ta miêu tả Đức Me. Cheesy
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Trả lời #6 vào lúc: 12-04-2013, 10:53 AM

@Beatificus: wow. you are doing great. Keep up the good work and please keep posting.
Just to add this one bit, 30 to 60 degree plus would mean you will feel like you are looking up. Given the general area right in front of your eyes would be 0 degree or point blank, and the area in front of you but at the same height as your forehead would be around 30-45 degree.
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Trả lời #7 vào lúc: 12-04-2013, 02:34 PM

"we get hooked on universal beauty" = chúng ta hay bị dính vào thói quen của cái đẹp đại trà. Ở đây ý chỉ linh ảnh có mái tóc màu nâu, là vẻ đẹp mẫu mà người ta miêu tả Đức Me. Cheesy

Cảm ơn Rancon nhiều, thiệt là khó mà diễn tả cho nó đúng. Thành ra rất là thông cảm khi mỗi lần dịch từ tiếng Việt sang Anh rancon hay nói là: muốn nổ banh đầu. Grin Grin Grin
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Trả lời #8 vào lúc: 17-06-2013, 11:23 PM

Good evening,

Thank you so much for everyone kind words and guidance the last time I had written. I apologize that my thanks came so late, I should have said something sooner. I meant no disrespect and am grateful for all of your time and input to assist me.

Some recent events have happened since my last post. For awhile, it was very constant, the image of Mother Mary, at arms length, only half of her body, with brown hair. Her image, although still not full length, is still constantly in my mind even when I not in deep meditation. However about last week or so, things started to change and I am curious as to why. I do not quite understand it. I ask for any advice you can give me.

Last week, around June 12th, some very worrisome event occurred regarding my family in which I implored to God, Mother Mary, for their assistance through prayer. I then meditated before going to sleep. I did as Chu Tibu had told me, picturing the image of the Blessed Mother. In the beginning, it started out very similar, with white pearls and eventually an image of the Blessed Mother right in front of me (still only half of her body, from chest up). However, as I continued, the background turned golden, like a very, very bright sun shining down on the Blessed Mother, with the golden 'sunshine' reflecting off of her hair and outlining her. It was very bright, very gold. The words of meditation turned from 'Ave Maria' and 'happiness' into 'Giuse, Maria, Giuse' (Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Holy Family). It was as though I had no control, and the words kept on coming in my mind. Even when I tried to return to 'Ave Maria' or 'happiness,' it was as though the image was telling me to repeat those words 'Giuse, Maria, Giuse'. This continued well into my sleep and even as I woke up the following morning.

This following day when I woke up, I was very tired. I had mentioned before that I have not been in all good health. This day, I woke up feeling even more exhausted and in pain than normal. The exhaustion continued until a few days afterwards; however, I was still able to meditate, but just not for long period of times. For a few days later, this golden image still continued. I have been so exhausted since then that I have not been able to meditate as strongly as I had previously.

I am not sure what caused the change in events, or if I am perhaps doing something wrong for this to happen.

Can you please let me know if I am still on the right track even though things have changed?

Again, thank you for any guidance you can provide me. I appreciate you taking your time to assist me.

Sincerely,

Beatificus
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Trả lời #9 vào lúc: 27-06-2013, 02:29 PM

Good evening,

Thank you so much for everyone kind words and guidance the last time I had written. I apologize that my thanks came so late, I should have said something sooner. I meant no disrespect and am grateful for all of your time and input to assist me.

Some recent events have happened since my last post. For awhile, it was very constant, the image of Mother Mary, at arms length, only half of her body, with brown hair. Her image, although still not full length, is still constantly in my mind even when I not in deep meditation. However about last week or so, things started to change and I am curious as to why. I do not quite understand it. I ask for any advice you can give me.
The vision will appears in two way:
1. The wrong way: When you look straight ahead, you should see the face. And normally, to see other part, you should look down.
2. The right way: The vision automatically move up very slowly, sometimes gradually step by step, but sometime smoothly.
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It look strange for the first time, but after for a while, it become normal. By this way, you will see gradually  the whole body
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Last week, around June 12th, some very worrisome event occurred regarding my family in which I implored to God, Mother Mary, for their assistance through prayer. I then meditated before going to sleep. I did as Chu Tibu had told me, picturing the image of the Blessed Mother. In the beginning, it started out very similar, with white pearls and eventually an image of the Blessed Mother right in front of me (still only half of her body, from chest up). However, as I continued, the background turned golden, like a very, very bright sun shining down on the Blessed Mother, with the golden 'sunshine' reflecting off of her hair and outlining her. It was very bright, very gold. The words of meditation turned from 'Ave Maria' and 'happiness' into 'Giuse, Maria, Giuse' (Jesus, Mary, Joseph, the Holy Family). It was as though I had no control, and the words kept on coming in my mind. Even when I tried to return to 'Ave Maria' or 'happiness,' it was as though the image was telling me to repeat those words 'Giuse, Maria, Giuse'. This continued well into my sleep and even as I woke up the following morning.

This following day when I woke up, I was very tired. I had mentioned before that I have not been in all good health. This day, I woke up feeling even more exhausted and in pain than normal. The exhaustion continued until a few days afterwards; however, I was still able to meditate, but just not for long period of times. For a few days later, this golden image still continued. I have been so exhausted since then that I have not been able to meditate as strongly as I had previously.

I am not sure what caused the change in events, or if I am perhaps doing something wrong for this to happen.

Can you please let me know if I am still on the right track even though things have changed?

Again, thank you for any guidance you can provide me. I appreciate you taking your time to assist me.

Sincerely,

Beatificus
In a complex situation like this, the only way is to breaks it down in a small step.

Let see what happen, we have:
1. The main problem: Family worrisome...
Then normally, we ask assistance:
2. God, Mother Mary, and their assistance...

You are in the right track:

The prayer convert by itself to the Holy Family with the very very bright sun light.

Comments: (Please slow down when reading nghe bà con) Grin Grin Grin

The very bright sunshine appears first, telling you, this is the power of will. And the advice was:
We will show you how miserable was the Holy Family.

We all know that:
Mary, at this time was just a teenage (16 years old) and was pregnant for no reason (for most of people, except Maria)
By the law, they will stone Maria...
Giuse manage to help Her, but no one believe it!

So they run for their live until Jesus have 30 years old. At this time, they stick together no matter what! They protect each other, they try very hard to survive!
And this is the power of unconditional love.

Imagine what happen when Jesus went play around:

Disaster scenario:Someone saw Jesus:
- - Look at this beautiful boy! Where do you live? Where are your parent?
The Boy:
- - There is my Mom, and I don't know about my father! {No matter what! speak the truth (Ăn ngay nói thật)}
- - What! No father!

Hearing that the whole family must vanished and fast!

Think about:

All the stress, the poverty, the constant being alert, and the worrisome...

That why you were so tired.

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I just meet your husband and he let me know that everything is back to normal now!
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The reason of this exhaustion:

The vision is not mature enough to support any advice. (because you do not have the whole vision of Maria).

But when your family have a problem , you stretch yourself to the maximum (we call Gấu Rượt). To reach "the power of will" nearly the same at  the fourth degree of meditation (Tứ Thiền Hữu Sắc) and normally, after all of that: you get exhausted.

So, I recommend you to relax as much as you can to recuperate your normal strength before doing anything else.
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Beatificus, you are the perfect mom for your family! And I am glad to show you the way of transcendent spiritual in this life.

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Chu Tibu,

I cannot tell you how grateful I am to have you become apart of my family's life. Thank you so much for your guidance, time, and support you have given my husband and myself. Your kind words especially touched my heart.

Your explanation made perfect sense. It was something I have felt a long time in my heart (the hardship and despair of the Holy Family) but I have never actual been shown or felt it so strongly before, just kind of a feeling like I know it was not exactly easy, even when I was younger.  It is hard to explain, but after this experience, I now understand it better, even if not entirely, as you also said, I have not fully achieve my meditation ability.

I have taken you advice and rested, and now I feel much better. I will let you know if anything else arises.

Thank you, again, for taking the time to help me. I appreciate it very much.

- Beatificus

*****Brightmoon00,

Thank you also, for your advice and congratulations! It is a relief to know I am on the right track. Thank you for your suuport as well!

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